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Extra Marlins stuff

Last blog post of the day, with my extra stuff from Marlins camp.

Check out the Spring Training report as well as their Top 20 list. And Bernie Pleskoff has been looking at each team’s system and how it addresses the team’s needs. Here’s the video piece from camp:

And now for the extras from my visit to Jupiter. First, from my conversation with Colin Moran.

What has big league camp been like for you?

Moran: It’s been a great experience. I think I’m learning a lot, just being around all the coaches like [Perry Hill], all the veterans, all the guys. It’s been a blast. I’ve learned from everybody, really. I try to pick their brains, but I try not to bother them too much. I’ll try to ask them questions and everyone has been awesome.

In the Fall League, you got a glimpse of what the upper levels are like. What did you see there that made you say, heading into the offseason, “This is what I need to work on so I can hit those levels this year.”?

Moran: I don’t know, it wasn’t one thing. It  was a little weird, having so much time for the first time during the offseason. It was nice, I got a lot of work in. I didn’t take too much time off after the Fall League. I just did everything I could to get ready.

And here’s some more stuff from my chat with farm director Brian Chattin:

How did you guys end up with so many lefties? Was it by design or just happened that way?

Chattin: I think it just happened naturally. There’s always a premium on left-handers. If you look at the guys we have at the upper levels, Brian Flynn, Justin Nicolino, Andrew Heaney, Adam Conley – Conley and Heaney were out of the Draft, first and second rounders, Nicolino and Flynn were in trades. When you’re going to be acquiring players via trade, there’s always going to be a premium on pitching and if you can find left-handed pitching, that’s always a plus.

Chattin also had another candidate for breakout player candidate: J.T. Riddle, a 2013 13th-round pick out of the University of Kentucky. Here’s his take on the infielder:

Chattin: He spent the year in short-season, out of last year’s Draft. He really showed signs of taking off in instructs last year. He’s a very athletic left-hand hitting middle infielder who is going to play every day in either low a or high a. We’ll let camp sort that out. He has the chance to really open some eyes within the industry this year. I don’t know that he made an out in instructs. He was just on a roll. The first month and a half of pro ball, he really struggled. There were a few adjustments made with his approach at the plate and he started to show signs in the second dhalf. Then he got to instructional league, granted those games don’t count, you can’t put a lot of stock in performance, but the way he swung the bat, the way he played, you started to see the tools he came in with, started to apply to his performance on the field. I think this is a guy we’re really going to hit on here from a later round pick.

And, finally, my One More Guy:

I’m going to take a little bit of an easy road here because I’m going with the guy who was my Breakout Candidate in the Spring Training report — Jarlin Garcia. Another young lefty about to hit full-season ball. A strong 2014 should put him firmly on the map and I could see him easily reaching Top 20 status at some point during this season.

Braves camp extras

We’re off and running with our Top 20 lists. And I’m back with my second Spring Training extras blog post, this time on the Braves (You can still feel free to check out my Mets extras at your leisure).

Here are the Braves extras. First, feel free to read the Spring Training report and peruse their Top 20. I’ve also included the video piece from camp here.

OK? Let’s start with a few more comments from Braves’ 2013 first-rounder Jason Hursh. Hursh had Tommy John surgery in college, so I asked him if, in retrospect, having to sit around and wait post-surgery, had some value.

Hursh: Definitely. I can always go back and remember watching guys and not being able to play, and let that fuel my fire. If I’m in the weight room, I go back to the days when I couldn’t do anything, lift a weight, it was all rehab. I use that to fuel my fire and work harder.

Then we talked about his repertoire and working as  a pro to mix his pitches more. The question was basically about how much he’s realized that he can’t just get away with his fastball only like he could at times in college.

Hursh: That’s one of the biggest things for me, getting into pro ball. Getting those secondary pitches down, the changeup, the curveball, whether it’s a cutter, working on all that to try and find what I’m most comfortable with. That’s what I’m really going to focus on here, just developing my changeup and my curveball and see if this year, it all clicks and we can get going a little bit.

What have you been able to glean from the big league arms here? Have you been able to pick their brains at all?

Hursh: Here and there, a little bit. Not so much pick their brains, but just observe from the side what they do in their bullpens, when they throw these pitches, how they work on this and that. I think from that aspect, it’s been really good to see how they go about their business.

Between your brief taste of professional ball and being here, what’s been the biggest surprise about pro ball you didn’t realize that you’re quickly gaining an understanding for?

Hursh: Just keeping the ball down and hitting your spots. In college, I could get away with it a little bit. Here, especially in big league camp, they’ll let you know if you didn’t execute a pitch to your spot. That was probably the biggest thing. All of your mistakes, they’ll let you know.

You’re a guy who lives down in the zone anyway, right? If you’re up, you’re going to get hit?

Hursh: Exactly. I know I’m on if I’m getting that sink to the fastball. That’s when I have my best days, for sure.

I also spent time talking to Braves assistant general manager John Coppolella. Much of that conversation is reflected in the Spring Training report, so there’s no need to get into too much more detail there.  But I did want to pass along the names of two very young recent international signees the Braves are very excited to get going this year.

Both are from Curacao.  Ozhaino Albies (signed for $350,000) and Kevin Josephina ($300,000) are both shortstops. They both looked very good at instructs last fall. They obviously have a long way to go, but sometimes players that young — both are 17 — can show a lot of progress quickly, just because of natural physical maturation.

Finally, here’s One More Guy from the Braves system:

Matt Lipka, OF: The Braves’ top pick in 2010, he’s dealt with adversity, he’s dealt with injury (hamstring tear), he’s dealt with a position switch (shortstop to outfield). His speed is still very much an exciting tool. He was healthy for all of 2013, a good first step. He’ll be just 22 for the 2014 season, so there’s time yet here. The bat does need to develop, but if it does, he could still be the top-of-the-lineup type catalyst  the Braves envisioned when they took him.

Mets camp extras

Now the fun really begins.

Over the course of March, we will be unveiling all of our team Top 20 lists. Today, we will have three (Mondays will be stacked like that as we wanted to avoid going live with these over the weekend): The Atlanta Braves, New York Mets and Miami Marlins.

Along with the Top 20s, we will have reports from Spring Training camps for each team. I’ve been running around Florida for the past week, Teddy Cahill will take the baton from me to finish off Florida and Jim Callis will handle the bulk of Arizona.

With each camp visit, I invariably ended up with way too much information, so I’m going to use this space to share some of the conversations I had with prospects and team executives.

I’m also going to include “One More Guy” — a prospect who didn’t crack the Top 20, but would likely be in the next group, say Nos. 21-25, and could be an in-season replacement when the need arises.

Here are the Mets extras. First, feel free to read the Spring Training report and peruse their Top 20. I’ve also included the video piece from camp here.

OK, ready for more? Here’s some more from my conversation with Brandon Nimmo:

Were you surprised you got the call to attend big league camp?

Nimmo: It came as a little bit of a surprise, but I knew I was ready for it. I was ready for this opportunity. I’m just trying to take advantage of every opportunity that I get and enjoy this experience. I plan to be here a lot more often, so hopefully this isn’t the only big league Spring Training I go to and I don’t think that’s what they’re planning on, either. They’re just trying to get me around these guys and obviously, I can contribute to the team, too. I have everything I bring to the table, and I’m confident in that, but I’m very humbled to be here.

What’s the biggest thing you’ve been able to glean so far, where you can say, “Clearly, I’m not there yet.” What do you really need to work on to move yourself closer?

Nimmo: They’re very consistent in what they do. That has to do with the routine they get into to get ready for the days. They have specific things they need to do to get ready for the day. They know how to do them and do them very well. I think that’s the biggest difference between Major Leaguers and Minor Leaguers, is that consistency, an ability to perform on a consistent basis. I think that’s the biggest thing I have to improve on just from watching these guys right now.

I also spoke to catcher Anthony Recker about some of the young arms he’s been able to catch in camp. Here’s what he had to say:

Recker: I thought last year when I caught Rafael Montero, he was ready to make the next step. He looked really good. I really liked Jake DeGrom, his ability to spot up, ability to make adjustments. I’d say the same thing for Montero, his ability to make adjustments on the fly. You miss in a certain spot, or you miss up, to be able to make the adjustment and get it down with the very next pitch is really big, especially in Major League Baseball. We have several  young guys who have shown the ability to do that. There are a good handful that seem ready to compete for a job, whether its now or later in the season. They look really good.

I spoke at length with Dick Scott, the farm director, and he compared to the Mets system now to a few years ago.

Scott: Before, we had Matt Harvey here, so as far as specific players, we had guys here, guys going to the big leagues and contributing. Lucas Duda was in the minor leagues, you had Harvey in the minor leagues. Now, it’s the volume, it’s Montero, it’s Syndergaard, picking those two guys up in the trade. Plus we got Buccera here as well, a 20 year old who was in the GCL who’s athletic. I thnk our sheer volume has increased. We also have guys down through the younger levels. We have Nimmo, we have Amed Rosario, Ceccchini. We feel we have a long way to go. The other part of that is you do’t know how many of these guys are going to be able to perform at the Major League level.

On the cyclical nature of farm system strength:

Scott: I think that happens in every organization at some point. There are organizations that trade Minor League players to make a run at a big league playoff and you’re going to be thin at some point. You ‘re not going to have as deep a list as maybe you had three years ago. I think ours is getting deeper. It’s a work in progress, but compared to a couple of years ago, [we’re improved].

And he had more to say about our breakout candidate, Gabriel Ynoa:

Scott: He’s a strike throwing machine. What’s amazing with him and Montero, they just pound the zone. Sometimes those guys come in and they just have it. He won a lot of games for us last year, so it’s not like nobody’s heard of him, but his stuff is improving. He has a great feel for pitching, he’s athletic,  probably 93-94 mph fastball, very good feel for a changeup. He just throws strikes. He’s always in the bottom of the zone, pitches to both sides of the plate. He’s one of those guys, the people who were in the SAL league last year know about him. He’s always thrown strikes, but his stuff has just gotten tighter, his breaking ball is a little tighter, the feel on his changeup. He throws a 2 and 4 seam fastball. He has great poise.

Finally, here’s One More Guy from the Mets system:

Jack Leathersich: It’s a sign of just how much deeper this system is that this lefty didn’t make the cut. He was No. 17 at season’s end last year. A one-time starter, he’s taken well to relief work as a pro. His strikeout rates are insane (15.2 K/9 in his Minor League career), using stuff and deception to miss bats. His command is just so-so, but he should impact the big league bullpen at some point this year.

An uber Top 100

The Top 100 season is more or less behind us, with most everyone having put out their version of the list. Some have even put out some version of what I’m going to list below, which is a composite list, smooshing together all of the lists to come up with a consensus ranking.

There are so many lists out there these days, but I’ve decided to limit the uber-100 (plus) to five lists: Ours at (duh); Baseball America; Keith Law at ESPN (subscription needed); Baseball Prospectus, courtesy of Jason Parks; and FanGraphs, from Marc Hulet.

Rather than assign points, I used an average ranking. Anyone not on a list got a 101 ranking.

Some notes:

  • 70 players appeared on all 5 lists. Another 11 appeared on 4 of the 5, 18 were on 3 of the 5.
  • I did not include the three guys on BA’s list who aren’t eligible for ours (Masahiro Tanaka, Josey Abreu, Carlos Martinez), there were 135 total prospects mentioned on a list somewhere.
  • The biggest differences in our list from average, in terms of us having a guy higher on the list than the average: Allen Webster (+41.4), Lance McCullers Jr (+34.4) and Jake Odorizzi (+24)
  • The biggest differences between us and  the average, with us having a guy lower down on our list: Matt Wisler (-28.2), J.P. Crawford (-25.8) and Braden Shipley (-25).
  • There was unanimity only on the top two guys, Byron Buxton and Xander Bogaerts. Four of the five lists had Oscar Taveras at No. 3. The first 62 names did appear on all five rankings.

Food for thought. The list is 135 deep, and I didn’t do anything in particular to break ties. Here it is:

Rank Name Pos Team AVG Lists
1 Byron Buxton OF MIN 1.00 5
2 Xander Bogaerts SS BOS 2.00 5
3 Oscar Taveras OF STL 3.40 5
4 Javier Baez SS CHC 5.40 5
5 Carlos Correa SS HOU 6.60 5
6 Archie Bradley RHP ARI 7.40 5
7 Miguel Sano 3B MIN 8.40 5
8 Addison Russell SS OAK 8.80 5
9 Francisco Lindor SS CLE 9.40 5
10 Taijuan Walker RHP SEA 9.60 5
11 Kris Bryant 3B CHC 11.00 5
12 Jonathan Gray RHP COL 14.00 5
13 Gregory Polanco OF PIT 15.40 5
14 Noah Syndergaard RHP NYM 16.00 5
15 George Springer OF HOU 18.40 5
16 Dylan Bundy RHP BAL 20.00 5
17 Robert Stephenson RHP CIN 20.00 5
18 Jameson Taillon RHP PIT 20.80 5
19 Kevin Gausman RHP BAL 21.80 5
20 Lucas Giolito RHP WAS 22.40 5
21 Mark Appel RHP HOU 22.80 5
22 Kyle Zimmer RHP KC 23.20 5
23 Eddie Butler RHP COL 24.60 5
24 Albert Almora OF CHC 25.60 5
25 Austin Hedges C SD 27.20 5
26 Aaron Sanchez RHP TOR 27.60 5
27 Nick Castellanos 3B DET 29.20 5
28 Andrew Heaney LHP MIA 30.80 5
29 Yordano Ventura RHP KC 31.20 5
30 Corey Seager SS LAD 32.20 5
31 Tyler Glasnow RHP PIT 35.60 5
32 Raul Adalberto Mondesi SS KC 36.40 5
33 Travis d’Arnaud C NYM 36.60 5
34 Maikel Franco 3B PHI 37.00 5
35 Alex Meyer RHP MIN 38.00 5
36 Jackie Bradley OF BOS 38.40 5
37 Kyle Crick RHP SF 40.20 5
38 Jorge Soler OF CHC 42.00 5
39 Joc Pederson OF LAD 43.80 5
40 Clint Frazier OF CLE 44.40 5
41 Jorge Alfaro C TEX 46.40 5
42 Rougned Odor 2B TEX 46.80 5
43 Julio Urias LHP LAD 47.40 5
44 Billy Hamilton OF CIN 48.20 5
45 Matt Wisler RHP SD 49.80 5
46 Lucas Sims RHP ATL 50.00 5
47 Marcus Stroman RHP TOR 50.20 5
48 Henry Owens LHP BOS 50.60 5
49 Kohl Stewart RHP MIN 50.80 5
50 Max Fried LHP SD 52.00 5
51 Austin Meadows OF PIT 53.20 5
52 Braden Shipley RHP ARI 54.00 5
53 Eduardo Rodriguez LHP BAL 54.60 5
54 Gary Sanchez C NYY 55.80 5
55 Mike Foltyniewicz RHP HOU 56.60 5
56 Garin Cecchini 3B BOS 57.20 5
57 C.J. Edwards RHP CHC 59.20 5
58 Colin Moran 3B MIA 61.20 5
59 Chris Owings SS ARI 61.40 5
60 Kolten Wong 2B STL 64.00 5
61 Jonathan Singleton 1B HOU 64.40 5
62 Blake Swihart C BOS 65.60 5
63 A.J. Cole RHP WAS 67.00 4
64 Jesse Biddle LHP PHI 67.00 5
65 David Dahl OF COL 70.00 5
66 Erik Johnson RHP CWS 71.60 5
67 Mookie Betts 2B BOS 71.60 4
68 J.P. Crawford SS PHI 75.20 3
69 Stephen Piscotty OF STL 75.60 5
70 Hunter Harvey RHP BAL 76.00 3
71 Eddie Rosario 2B MIN 77.40 3
72 Zach Lee RHP LAD 77.60 5
73 Alen Hanson SS PIT 78.40 4
74 Nick Kingham RHP PIT 78.60 4
75 Matt Davidson 3B CWS 79.00 5
76 Arismendy Alcantara 2B CHC 79.00 5
77 Jake Marisnick OF MIA 79.60 4
78 Jake Odorizzi RHP TB 80.00 4
79 Rafael Montero RHP NYM 81.60 4
80 D.J. Peterson 3B SEA 81.80 4
81 Dom Smith 1B NYM 82.00 3
82 Christian Bethancourt C ATL 82.60 5
83 Miguel Almonte RHP KC 84.80 3
84 Lance McCullers Jr. RHP HOU 86.40 2
85 Reese McGuire C PIT 86.40 3
86 Allen Webster RHP BOS 87.40 2
87 Matt Barnes RHP BOS 87.60 4
88 Jonathan Schoop 2B BAL 87.60 3
89 Justin Nicolino LHP MIA 87.80 3
90 Rosell Herrera SS COL 88.20 3
91 Luis Sardinas SS TEX 89.40 3
92 Phillip Ervin OF CIN 89.40 2
93 Delino DeShields Jr. OF HOU 89.80 2
94 Joey Gallo 3B TEX 89.80 3
95 Josh Bell OF PIT 90.00 3
96 Taylor Guerrieri RHP TB 90.20 3
97 Michael Choice OF TEX 90.20 3
98 Vincent Velazquez RHP HOU 90.40 2
99 Edwin Escobar LHP SF 90.80 2
100 Pierce Johnson RHP CHC 91.20 4
101 Hak-Ju Lee SS TB 91.40 3
102 Trevor Bauer RHP CLE 91.80 2
103 J.O. Berrios RHP MIN 92.00 3
104 Josmil Pinto C MIN 92.00 1
105 Jorge Bonifacio OF KC 92.80 4
106 Mason Williams OF NYY 93.00 2
107 Brian Goodwin OF WAS 93.40 3
108 James Paxton LHP SEA 94.00 2
109 Jimmy Nelson RHP MIL 94.40 3
110 Chi Chi Gonzalez RHP TEX 94.80 1
111 Wilmer Flores 3B NYM 95.00 1
112 Hunter Renfroe OF SD 95.40 2
113 Alberto Tirado RHP TOR 96.00 1
114 Enny Romero LHP TB 96.20 2
115 Sean Manaea LHP KC 96.40 1
116 Devon Travis 2B DET 97.60 1
117 Trey Ball LHP BOS 97.60 2
118 Nick Williams OF TEX 97.60 2
119 Tyler Austin OF NYY 97.80 1
120 Alex Colome RHP TB 98.00 1
121 Casey Kelly RHP SD 98.20 1
122 Marcus Semein INF CWS 99.00 1
123 Brandon Nimmo OF NYM 99.20 1
124 Roberto Osuna RHP TOR 99.40 1
125 Taylor Lindsey 2B LAA 99.40 1
126 Nick Ciuffo C TB 99.80 1
127 Chris Anderson RHP LAD 100.00 1
128 Hunter Dozier SS KC 100.00 1
129 Robbie Ray LHP DET 100.20 1
130 Raimel Tapia OF COL 100.20 1
131 Tim Anderson SS CWS 100.40 1
132 Alexander Reyes RHP STL 100.40 1
133 Jose Peraza SS ATL 100.60 1
134 Mitch Nay 3B TOR 100.80 1
135 Rob Kaminsky LHP STL 100.80 1

College roundup — weekend #1

The college baseball season got underway last weekend and even though weather wreaked some havoc, there were enough names from our Draft Top 50 (from the fall) who did get to play. A quick rundown of who did what over the weekend, in order of where they are ranked on the Top 50 (hopefully this will become a regular feature):

1. Carlos Rodon, LHP, NC State: 6 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 6 K, L vs. Canisius

2. Jeff Hoffman, RHP, East Carolina: 6 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 6 K, ND vs. James Madison

4. Trea Turner, SS, NC State: 3-4, SB vs. Canisius

6. Tyler Beede, RHP, Vanderbilt: 5 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 7 K, W @ Long Beach State

11. Aaron Nola, RHP, LSU: 6 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 6 K, W vs. New Orleans

14. Kyle Schwarber, C, Indiana: 3-for-15, 1 2B, 1 BB, 1 K @ Texas Tech

15. Derek Fisher, OF, Virginia: 5-for-11, 5 R, 3 RBI, 1 2B, 1 3B, 1 BB, 2 K @ Hughes Brothers Challenge

17. Sean Newcomb, LHP, Hartford: Did not play

19. Bradley Zimmer, OF, San Francisco: 6-for-12, 3 R, 2 2B, 1 SB, 2 BB, 1 K @ UC Riverside

20. Max Pentecost, C, Kennesaw State: 8-for-13, 4 R, 2 RBI, 3 2B, 2 BB vs. Middle Tenn. State

21. Brandon Finnegan, LHP, TCU: 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 13 K, W vs. Jacksonville

22. Erick Fedde, RHP, UNLV: 7.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 11 K, W vs. Central Michigan

23. Luke Weaver, RHP, Florda St.: 6 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 7 K, W vs. Niagara

24. Kyle Freeland, LHP, Evansville: 5 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 6 K, W @ Lipscomb

27. Michael Cederoth, RHP, San Diego St.: 3.2 IP, 3 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 4 BB, 6 K, L @ San Jose St.

28. Michael Conforto, OF, Oregon St.:  5-for-10, 5 R, 8 RBIs, 1 2B, 4 BB @Husker Classic

30. Matt Chapman, 3B, Fullerton:  4-for-13, 2 R, 3 BB, 3 K, 1 2B vs. Washington St.

33. Nick Burdi, RHP, Louisville:  1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, W @Homewood Suites Tournament

36. Dylan Davis, OF, Oregon St.: 4-for-12, 1 R, 5 RBI, 1 @B, 2 BB, 3 K @Husker Classic

45. J.D. Davis, OF/RHP , Fullerton:  5-13, 4 R, 2 RBI, 2 BB, 3 K, 1 2B, 2 3B, 1 HR; 1 IP ,1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K, W, vs. Washington St.

Some feedback from scouts:

  • Two mentioned Erick Fedde’s performance against Central Michigan as being impressive (and thought Jordan Foley from Central Michigan was pretty good, though he’s more of a 2nd-3rd round type).
  • While Luke Weaver’s numbers looked good agaist Niagara, one scout thought he was just so-so. Weaver pitched at 90-91 with a short slider and a decent changeup.

A few early 2014 Draft notes

Yes, you heard me. You might be reading this while looking out at snow and ice, but not only are pitchers and catchers reporting to Spring Training, but the amateur season has started in some of the warm weather areas.

Over the past week or so, I’ve been starting to get some info from scouts who are already hitting the road and making sure they’re seeing as many players as they can between now and the Draft. And I’ll try to relay any pertinent information when I can, hopefully in a slightly  more timely fashion. But I do have reports on early outings from a pair of intriguing high school arms.


Sean Reid-Foley, ranked No. 31 in the Draft Top 50 we released last fall, made his first outing recently in Florida at his Sandalwood High School’s kickoff tournament. The right-hander wasn’t really sharp, but that’s not so surprising given how early it is. For his first outing of the year, he was still fairly efficient, throwing his fastball 90-94 mph while also using an 82-87 mph slider and 82-85 mph changeup throughout his three innings.

Heading way out west, Kodi Medeiros also got a lot of early attention for his first outing. Several scouting directors made the trip out to Hawaii (who wouldn’t?) to watch the lefty ranked No. 25 on that Top 50). He didn’t disappoint, striking out seven in 2 2/3 innings. His fastball sat in the 92-94 mph range with good arm side life and his slider was really tough to hit, a 79-81 sweeping breaking ball.

Obviously, it’s early and there’s much, much more to come. But I thought this might whet the appetites of the Draft fans out there.

Tri tri again with prospects

Our most recent Pipeline Perspectives is up on the now. Jim Callis and I debate which teams have the best trio of prospects in the game. I went for the Cubs combination of Javier Baez, Kris Bryant and Albert Almora. Jim advocated for the Twins trio of Byron Buxton, Miguel Sano and Alex Meyer.

As we’ve tried to get in the habit of doing, both of us are blogging about the subject as well. Jim ranked his favorites. By now, you know me… I like using our Prospect Points system to see how things shake out. So I took the top trio from every organization that had three or more prospects in the Top 100 (the Red Sox could have had three trios, for example, but I only took one) and ranked them using our points system. A quick refresher: 100 points for the No. 1 prospect, 99 for No. 2, all the way down to one point for the last prospect in the Top 100. Here’s what the “standings” look like:

Rank Trios Org Points
1 Byron Buxton, Miguel Sano, Alex Meyer MIN 270
2 Javier Baez, Kris Bryant, Albert Almora CHC 269
3 Carlos Correa, Mark Appel, George Springer HOU 257
4 Gregory Polanco, Jameson Taillon, Tyler Glasnow PIT 247
5 Xander Bogaerts, Henry Owens, Jackie Bradley BOS 238
6 Kyle Zimmer, Yordano Ventura, Raul Alberto Mondesi KC 205
7 Noah Syndergaard, Travis d’Arnaud, Rafael Montero NYM 185
8 Dylan Bundy, Kevin Gausman, Eduardo Rodriguez BAL 184
9 Jonathan Gray, Eddie Butler, David Dahl COL 177
10 Francisco Lindor, Clint Frazier, Trevor Bauer CLE 172
11 Corey Seager, Joc Pederson, Zach Lee LAD 170
12 Andrew Heaney, Colin Moran, Jake Marisnick MIA 158
13 Austin Hedges, Max Fried, Matt Wisler SD 158
14 Oscar Taveras, Kolten Wong, Stephen Piscotty STL 144
15 Archie Bradley, Chris Owings, Braden Shipley ARI 142
16 Jorge Alfaro, Rougned Odor, Michael Choice TEX 133
17 Aaron Sanchez, Marcus Stroman, Roberto Osuna TOR 132
18 Jake Odorizzi, Hak-Ju Lee, Taylor Guerrieri TB 69

More dynamic (pitching) duos

In today’s MLBPipeline Perspectives, Jim Callis and I debated which teams we thought had the best pitching prospects tandem in baseball. Jim went with Jon Gray and Eddie Butler of the Rockies. I opted for the right-handed combo of Jameson Taillon and Tyler Glasnow from the Pirates.

Jim went on to blog his rankings for the top pitching prospect duos in the game over on Callis’ Corner. I must admit I’m a bit dismayed he put my Taillon-Glasnow third on his list, but I’ll get over it.

To extract some measure of revenge, however, I wanted to provide my own rankings, of a sort. I used it in my argument in picking Taillon and Glasnow: the Prospect Points. That’s the system we used to provide an organizational standings from the Top 100 list. I used the same idea — 100 points for the No.1 prospect, 99 for No. 2 (Jon Gray gets 87 points for being No. 14, as a result)., etc. Using this system, here’s how the top tandems in the Top 100 (only one pairing for an organization listed eve if they have more than two pitchers in the Top 100) stack up:

1. Taillon and Glasnow, Pirates: 165 points. I rest my case.

2. Dylan Bundy and Kevin Gausman, Orioles: 159 points. Jim’s not the only one who can put the O’s No. 2.

3. Gray and Butler, Rockies: 147 points. A distant third.

4. Kyle Zimmer and Yordano Ventura, Royals: 142 points. A lot of power coming towards KC.

5. Alex Meyer and Kohl Stewart, Twins: 134 points. Stewart’s development could raise their stock.

6. Mark Appel and Lance McCullers Jr.: 133 points. Even if McCullers ends up a reliever, this is a good tandem.

7. Henry Owens and Allen Webster, Red Sox: 126. First lefty mentioned on this list.

8. Aaron Sanchez and Marcus Stroman, Blue Jays: 124. If you told me this duo would outperform some ahead, I wouldn’t argue.

9. Archie Bradley and Braden Shipley, D-backs: 118. Shipley is one of my picks for guys in the 51-100 range who could jump up the list in his first full seaosn.

10. Noah Syndergaard and Rafael Montero, Mets: 106. Music to Mets fans ears as both are close to contributing in New York.

11. Andrew Heaney and Justin Nicolino, Marlins: 92. The only double-lefty combo; both could be established in Miami’s rotation by 2015.

12. Lucas Giolito and A.J. Cole, Nationals: 89. I’d keep an eye on this pair, they could move up this ranking in a hurry.

13. Max Fried and Matt Wisler, Padres: 81. I think Fried could establish himself as top lefty by end of year.

14. Kyle Crick and Edwin Escobar, Giants: 75. Interesting combination of power (Crick) and more pitchability (Escobar).

15. Zach Lee and Julio Urias, Dodgers: 75. Urias is so young, but if the lefty keeps doing what he’s done so far, he’ll move up quickly.

16. C.J. Edwards and Pierce Johnson, Cubs: 60. Chicago known more for its hitting prospects right now, but this is still a solid duo.

17. Jake Odorizzi and Taylor Guerrieri, Rays: 52. Guerrieri’s suspension and injury hurt their standing.

Other Hitting/Pitching Prospect Duos

Jim Callis and I just duked it out in our most recent Pipeline Perspectives (I hope you guys are enjoying this series as much as we are writing them). The topic: The best hitting/pitching prospect duo in baseball. In case you missed it, I picked the Twins’ combination of Byron Buxton and Alex Meyer. Jim chose the Astros’ Carlos Correa and Mark Appel.

Here’s the video version of our debate:

Obviously, I’m right.

In all seriousness, that’s a very close call. And there are a number of other very interesting duos around baseball that should be exciting to watch in the future:

Gregory Polanco (OF) and Jameson Taillon (RHP), Pirates: Polanco is No. 13 on the Top 100; Taillon is No. 16. They’re the only other tandem in the Top 20.

Travis d’Arnaud (C) and Noah Syndergaard (RHP), Mets: d’Arnaud is the highest rated catcher, at No. 22; Syndergaard is No. 11 overall.

Xander Bogaerts (SS) and Henry Owens (LHP), Red Sox: Bogaerts, complete with his World Series experience, is No. 2. Owens is the 2nd-highest rated lefty on the list at No. 30.

Others in the Top 100 (taking the top hitting and pitching prospect from each organization, and only listing one pairing per system):

Chris Owings, SS (77) and Archie Bradley, RHP (5), D-backs
D.J. Peterson, 3B (88) and Taijuan Walker, RHP (6), Mariners
Javier Baez, SS (7) and C.J. Edwards, RHP (42), Cubs
Francisco Lindor, SS (10) and Trevor Bauer, RHP (73), Indians
David Dahl, OF (71) and Jon Gray, RHP (14), Rockies
Nick Castellanos, 3B (15) and Robbie Ray, LHP (97), Tigers
Billy Hamilton, OF (37) and Robert Stephenson, RHP (19), Reds
Austin Hedges, C (24) and Max Fried, LHP (43), Padres
Adalberto Raul Mondesi, SS (38) and Kyle Zimmer, RHP (25), Royals
Maikel Franco, 3B (26) and Jesse Biddle, LHP (53), Phillies
Colin Moran, 3B (51) and Andrew Heaney, LHP (29), Marlins
Corey Seager, SS (34) and Zach Lee, RHP (63), Dodgers
Hak-Ju Lee, SS (84) and Jake Odorizzi, RHP (56), Rays
Christian Bethancourt, C (82) and Lucas Sims, RHP (60), Braves
Matt Davidson, 3B (80) and Erik Johnson, RHP (70), White Sox


Beyond the Top 100

As most of you hopefully know, we released the Top 100 Prospects list on Thursday night. Check it out, peruse it, pick it apart, if you haven’t already done so.

As is always the case, a number of players don’t make it that you could make a case for inclusion. And then there are some you may feel you like, or want to see what they do this year (having the potential to jump onto the list). Jim Callis has created his own list over at Callis’ Corner. I’m going to do the same (without looking at his first).

Keep in mind, this should not be regarded as a ranking for 101-115. It’s really more of a “guys I like” list (lots o’ 2013 draftees) — many of them could end up in the Top 100 as others graduate out, but this certainly isn’t a guarantee of who’s next.

J.P. Crawford, SS, Phillies: The Phillies’ top pick at No. 16 overall, if Crawford goes out this year and shows he can hit like he did in his pro debut, he’ll make believers out of all who weren’t 100 percent sure about the bat.

Rafael De Paula, RHP, Yankees: Just missed the cut of this year’s Top 100, has gotten past all the identity nonsense, missed a ton of bats in 2013. He has the chance to have three average or better pitches and could start moving fast.

Hunter Dozier, 3B, Royals: I know what you’re thinking: I’m doing this just to get back in the good graces of the Royals after many felt I buried this pick at the Draft. Not so (well, not entirely). He had a terrific debut with the bat and should hit for average and power while playing a solid third base.

Marco Gonzales, LHP, Cardinals: The No. 19 pick in last year’s Draft, not only is the Gonzaga product as media savvy as they come, he has the kind of feel for pitching (especially since he’s not hitting anymore) that could allow him to move quickly to St. Louis.

Brian Goodwin, OF, Nationals: I’m a sucker for toolsy outfielders (as you’ll see). I will say this, though: It’s time for him to start matching performance with his raw tools. The clock is ticking.

Courtney Hawkins, OF, White Sox: Toolsy, outfielder, see? After a tremendous summer debut post Draft backflip, a lot went wrong for Hawkins in 2013, though Chicago aggressively pushed him to the Carolina League. I think he bounces back in 2014 and shows why he was worthy of going No. 13 overall in 2012.

Nick Kingham, RHP, Pirates: More good news for the Pirates. He’s a big, strong right-hander who reached Double-A in 2013 (meaning he could be ready to contribute this season)  while finishing second in the system in strikeouts, fourth in ERA, third in WHIP and second in batting average against.

Reese McGuire, C, Pirates: Fellow high school first-round pick by the Pirates Austin Meadows made the Top 100, but McGuire isn’t far behind. Good chance to be an excellent all-around receiver; can’t wait to see how he follows up on his stirring pro debut.

Dorssys Paulino, SS, Indians: Paulino cracked the Top 100 late last year, just missed (in my opinion) this time around. He’ll play all of 2014 at age 19. He might end up at 2B, but he could be a good one there.

Anthony Ranaudo, RHP, Red Sox: Just what we need, another Red Sox prospect, right? Ranaudo had a terrific 2013 and should be ready to contribute in the big leagues this year. He might be one of those guys who never is valued that highly on lists, but who goes on to be very productive as a Major Leaguer.

Hunter Renfroe, OF, Padres: I liked him as a rare toolsy college guy in the 2013 Draft. I’m very curious to see how he adjusts to more advanced pitching over the course of his first full season. But the tools are all there for him to be an exciting player to watch.

Marcus Semien, INF, White Sox: This isn’t a result of this tweet, which led to a longer back-and-forth:

While I still like Wong more, I do like Semien. Some power, some speed, has shown an ability to play three infield positions. And he’s going to help in Chicago this year.

Dom Smith, 1B, Mets: I think we got more questions about his proximity to the Top 100 than anyone else. The No. 11 pick in last year’s Draft had a solid pro debut and most feel the first baseman is going to hit. If he does as expected, look for him to be the next 1B to hit the Top 100.

Bubba Starling, OF, Royals: Even though he fell off the Top 100, I’m not ready to give up on him yet. He’s still only 21 and he has a ton of raw tools. He’s going to have to show he can hit advanced pitching, but I’m not going to throw in the towel just yet.

Jesse Winker, OF, Reds: This guy just hits. Period. He has the chance to be a batting leaders type of hitter with some pop and run-producing ability. His bat + the California League could equal big numbers, and I could see him finishing the year in Double-A.

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